Mar 29, 2008

i'd like to say this entry is about sex swings, but...

...it's not.

instead, it's partly a follow-up to some comments i made back in this post, and partly an entry that will bump zooey down a bit on my mainpage so i'm not suddenly losing 15 minutes staring at her every time i load up my blog.

so, based on conversations i've had with a few people in the real universe and in the online-universe (formerly the AOL universe and previouslier still the punch-card universe), it turns out my comments on drinking (which i took oh-so-much care making in such a way that they wouldn't be misconstrued) were misconstrued. this is an important point, and so i'm going to belabor it to make sure it comes across as intended. it seems like a lot of the time you can't express disinterest in an activity without other people feeling like you're judging them for their own interest in said activity, and that's unfortunate because that's not the case here.

as i'm pretty sure i've mentioned before, i was a pretty messed up kid, especially in my late teens. i had a lot of issues and i was convinced that my ability to contribute meaning to the world and/or receive meaning from it was/were eternally corrupted by the fact that i just absolutely sucked at everything. i was luckily pulled out of this hole eventually partially by my own pragmatism and stubborness and partially because of this girl that i met who was brilliant enough to point out that maybe i could be flawed in some ways and still be able to contribute something that mattered to life overall. so i believed her, picked myself up, and did my best for a few years. well, as they often do, things between me and this girl eventually went south. that in itself wasn't a problem. the problem was that my justification for not being a total waste of life was entirely wrapped up in my relationship with her, and when that ended, i didn't have anything that was entirely my own to stand on. so i pretty much bottomed out again, to where i had been back in the good old days. and this time, instead of running into a girl, i ran into jim beam. so for about a year or so, i drank enough and had enough fun while drinking that i was able to believe that life was fun and meaningful and people cared about me and that i cared about people. of course most of those things were true, but i was only able to believe them when i was drinking.

eventually i disentangled myself from that whole thing and moved on, and got better. but the point of this story isn't to get approval for my own made-for-TV-movie or to get you and the indian from national geographic to shed a tear for my horrible, horrible life. at this point, i don't fucking care. it happened, and i learned a lot, and it's over now.

the point of the story is to say:
a) i might be a bit biased on the use of alcohol in social situations
b) i might be a bit strongly opinionated when it comes to the use of alcohol in social situations

but that's the way it is, and that's the reason it is that way. i don't mind the occasional drink. i don't mind occasionally getting smash-ass drunk and falling off a roof or losing my clothes or losing my clothes while falling off a roof and then running 3 miles back to my apartment (some of those things have happened, some haven't but should eventually). i'm not like an AA convert that never wants to touch a drink again and doesn't think anyone else should either. despite the impression i may or may not give off, i could give less of a fuck whether other people are complete drunks or evangelical puritans.

here's my thing: if i drink, i like it to just be rarely, because i'm afraid that if it's not, i'll start getting attached to the feeling of being drunk all the time again and lose track of other, less crazy reasons for enjoying life.

corollary: not drinking makes it hard to hang out with people who drink a lot, because let's face it, being drunk is like a social context. nobody likes to be the DD because it's boring, and you can't really relate well to the people who are smash-ass drunk and bouncing off the walls. so your choice is either to a) join the social context by drinking or b) skip out and feel like an outsider or show up and not drink and still feel like an outsider.

corollary 2: if you're the kind of person who would do/say a lot of things when you're drunk that you wouldn't do/say otherwise, odds are we're not going to get along well. i can appreciate the idea of alcohol as a "social lubricator", but if you need alcohol before you can "be yourself" then you're probably not my girl/guy. if that approach works for you, fine. i'm just saying it doesn't work for me.

conclusion from corollary #2: if you aren't the type of person that i've described above, then what's the point in drinking more than once a month or so? it costs more than drinking water/soda/whatever, it involves being in places where it's really hard to talk/interact meaningfully because of noise levels/smoke levels/etc. and it pretty much necessitates drinking at least a decent amount before it's any fun. so why not just do something else?

i guess i see it the same way i see other recreational drug use (i won't specify here because i don't want to get myself in trouble, but let's just say my list is at least a few items long). it's fun to do occasionally, but i think it's more fun to just sit around and watch a movie or go for a hike or a road trip or just randomly dick around (meant not-sexually, of course...umm...usually, anyway). i guess if that makes me old or no fun or whatever, that's fine. that's some else's judgment to make. but i hate being put in situations where i feel like the only options i have for socializing are: a) drink more often and more frequently than i'm comfortable with or b) come off as a pompous ass and stay at home by myself. it seems to me that if people were more interested in hanging out than they were in drinking, we could at least occasionally deign to do something not-alcohol related. i don't really think that's an asshole thing for me to expect. any thoughts?

5 comments:

  1. See, i can definitely relate to lots of this as someone who has never been nor has any plans to ever be drunk.
    Luckily, most of my friends, when i was in Ohio and my friends were around, didn't drink, or only drank occassionally, and rarely ever at bars. So, I could have a beer with friends, who wouldn't be getting drunk, and not get drunk myself, no problems. *But*, I have been in situations where I have gone out to the bar with friends, and usually just end up leaving once people get sufficiently lubricated, because at that point we are no longer on the same page. And so I definitely can feel what you're saying.
    I've always been an anti-drug person, alcohol included, so I can't say I share the same sentiment over getting smash-ass drunk. But I can say that I care much more about other more important things than whether my friends are getting smash-ass drunk. So, again, I can feel you there.
    Alcohol is a weird, weird topic for lots of people, and I think everyone is worried about other people's perceptions because nobody wants to feel judged, esp. if they really aren't sure if they should be judged somewhere deep down inside.
    I mostly feel that a beverage should be a beverage. Whatever it is. But one of the things I've thought about is the degree of intimacy involved in getting drunk. In a way, there's a nakedness involved in getting drunk because you are making yourself vulnerable to someone else. You are loosening your senses and so when people get drunk together it is a bonding experience, just like anything else that's intimate, or perhaps more like the bonding that comes from taking a road trip together or climbing a mountain together. There's a reliance on the other members of the party that you're not going to get rejected and you are going to be supported. And that plays a big part in the "let's get drunk"/"let's not get drunk"/DD situation.

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  2. thanks for weighing in. lately, while i've been trying to figure some of this drinking-related stuff out in my head, i keep reflecting back to that super-long conversation you and matt and i had on the zephyr patio this summer (before you guys had your ninja battle on the scaffolding, which was one of the top 5 moments of summer, for sure). that conversation really made clear to me for the first time WHY it's not really fun to be around drinking people when you yourself aren't drinking and why it's not just something that's weird about me personally, as i'd previously thought.

    and yeah, it can definitely be a bonding experience to get...umm...smash-ass drunk and put yourself out there with other people. i've definitely done that. but for me, that doesn't replace the desire to bond with people intensely without drinking, and i've known a lot of people who don't seem willing to put themselves out there UNLESS they're drunk. i guess that's what concerns me. and it's not so much that i think those people are "wrong"...i mean if that works for them, then cool. but i'm just not interested in being friends (read: good friends) with people that i have to drink with to feel some sort of meaningful connexion. (yeah, i totally used the 16th century form of "connection" because i'm awesome)

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  3. I think one of the biggest problems with the alcohol-crazed lifestyle is that it's inherently selfish. AA people talk about selfishness as one of the pillars of alcoholism, and I see it. Who doesn't become self-obsessed when they start drinking? How long does it take to start obsessing over one's selfish interests when drunk? And I think it goes the other way. The times that I'm in the mood to drink are the times when I'm feeling selfish and need to drink to help advance my interests (for sex, pleasure, fun, or whatever.) Basically I'm most likely to drink when I'm in the 'it's all about me' mindset, a mindset which is just fueled even more by alcohol. There's something about the selfish, impatient desire for quick and intense gratification that seems to be at the core of the abuse of both alcohol and drugs (which always comes through really clearly on shows like Intervention.) It's this exact same element that often makes one so depressed soon after, when the selfish needs aren't met or the quick thrill wears off.

    After typing all that I feel like drinking =)

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  4. yes, using connexion does make you awesome. You should write a whole entry in Middle or Olde English. That would be even more awesome.

    I'm usually willing to put myself out there without drink so I can only imagine what beans I'd be spilling or absolutely cockamaymee dangerous things I'd be doing if I was drunk.

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  5. i can definitely understand the selfishness angle. although, for me, i think that really only figured in when i was a flat-out drunk. i'm going to guess that people who drink rarely (like me currently) usually don't drink out of some driving selfishness, but instead just because it's fun to do every once in awhile the same way that pigging out at dinner or watching TV for 5 straight hours is fun to do once in awhile. everybody else is going out and getting some drinks, so i might as well do it too. when i go out under those circumstances, it's never to drink to increase my chances of getting laid, or being funny, or whatever, it's just because it's sometimes a fun recreational activity. now i have no idea if this is relevant at all to your post...

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